VPR Cast#57: “Don’t Go Global”

Welcome to our 57th mmo podcast at mmoSmacktalk.com! Prepare your ears for a lot of hot wind and silence… we (Connor joins) open up with ~30 min of paper thin dfo talk, and shift into MO and the Global Collect fiasco. Connor commands you to enjoy the cast and comment.

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About this glorious mmo podcast:
 Over 1 hour of mmo podcast pleasure
Darkfall and the “expansion” <– over statement
Connor divulges what he’s playing to pass the time while holding his breath for MO paid beta.
light MO, and the Global Collect issue which caused delay of game, 10 yard penalty.

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Game Discussion and Analysis:

  • Darkfall Online (DFO): open pvp, full loot, loads of asses to kick.
  • Mortal Online (MO): softcore DFO??? Good graphics, free for all pvp with an L2 style spin.
  • and many more…
  • Stray Bullet Games (No Name Yet): from the makers of Shadowbane, comes a mystery meat mmo. Will this be first person perspective, sandbox, loot, full loot? Nobody knows, YET, not even God.

49 thoughts on “VPR Cast#57: “Don’t Go Global””

  1. I killed alot of highwaymen during my time in DFO, it was very convient that they were so close to LM. What you do is you pull them into the tunnel because when you go to the back they leash and you can just manamissile/arrow them down, and your less likely to die.
    Another thing is Raven veterans/officers/scouts that would take 5+guys in vent cooperating to solo one, and they pull in groups of 7. What you have to do is get ontop of building right outside of the tunnel exit and manamissile over the edge of the roof, it takes about 15 minutes to kill them but they drop 200 gold and R40/r50 bows, very nice shields and rarely plate and r60 swords.
    I’ve also killed alot of gaint skeletons, the trick is you get ontop of one of the rocks and manamissile/arrow them down. they drop about 8 bone sulfur and ash, about 40gold and diamonds.

    Freehold guys might knock you off the roof at the ravens, and that might be because of some policy’s i helped make.

  2. @steve: where are the ravens? the highwaymen can be handled face to face now… which is good. i hate standing on buildings and rocks to pve. RE the giant skeletons…. dont they shoot magic? I could have sworn that guy cast on me a few times, unless it was the pvp and I didnt notice.

  3. Well guys. I have decided not to buy DFO US. I think that AV will not get any more of my money. So I am taking Epoch’s advice, to wait for Mortal Online.

    The straw that broke the camel’s back was getting my forum account banned. They said that I was banned for “ban evasion”. I never got banned from them before, so I cam curious how I was evading it lol. I tried to petition it but no response from Mods, so I will show them my dissatisfaction with them by not purchasing DFO and instead purchase MO.

    Anyone here got into the beta for MO? Also any indication of a release date other than, “Summer 2009”?

  4. @BurntSashimi: Well I definitely understand that angle. I’ll never play WoW again because of their sensitivity issues. Vince, another member of the cast, and me bro, got a 3 day suspension for calling everybody who was spamming the general chat with chuck norris comments a bunch of pussies. I couldnt believe it! A 3 day suspension to a paying customer for calling guys ” a bunch of pussies”. He has other stories like that. I won’t play a game that caters to the ultra sensitive. Isn’t that PART of the reason we game, to experience a different reality? I do, however, take exception with little fuckers talking about child abuse and hardcore racist and sexual issues in general chat. Once again, I’m trying to play a game, not contemplate human degeneracy. So in that case, I’d slap a suspension on those types.

    In a nutshell:
    – call guys pussies will not cause a mass exodus from your game
    – let derelicts discuss the grossest perversions will drive people from the game.

    So I’m NOT in favor of suspension/banning for the first issue, but I am for the second.

    You’re welcome for the tangent. πŸ˜€

  5. @ryan Theres a huge hole in the center of lower LM city and if you follow it you will come to a fork in the tunnel, take the tunnel to the right and you will find yourself at the ravens. The giant skeletons do shoot magic but there’s a part of the rock where they can’t shoot you and you can rest.
    World of warcraft’s strict rules are both a blessing and a curse, i have been banned for: “Exploiting” the economy, Extremely violent sexual acts, abuse of guild based values and many more. But i have also changed my name ingame 8+ times for free by reporting myself, i have gotten many guilds names force name changed and have gotten cyber-sex enthusiasts banned, I was also able to get one of my perma-banned accounts unbanned.

  6. I R Sad Panda, you guys didn’t comment on my second part of my post in the cast.

    I thought that would of given you something to chew on for a discussion in a cast.

    I think that I “might” check out DFO before MO. I am in beta block D

  7. @BurntSushi: good idea. Why dont you enumerate what you disliked about dfo… bullet points. I’ll address them point for point.

  8. I listened to your entire cast , #57. Ryan, Ryan, I’ve heard you talk about DFO since the beginning and to me you sound like your in denial. For lack of a better analogy you sound like the abused scorned house-wife refusing to admit her husband is a bad man for beating her.

    Come on man, you lose every pvp session, it’s a long grind, and you hate the wall of pain, I just don’t see how you can be claiming that DFO has been good times. What’s your explanation?

    I’ve gone through the same garbage with past MMO’s and the best way to find out if it’s true, is to drop the game for a month. If you can return to it, then I’m wrong, otherwise your just wasting your time man. Go with MO.

    I think MO is gonna provide the goods, from what I hear and see so far, it looks great. I got into Beta as well ( fingers crossed ) I won’t be able to divulge anything ( NDA ) but I’m happy so far.

    Anyways I’m looking forward to the next cast, keep em comin bro. Oh ya and see you on the battlefield Connor.

  9. @Baelvar: It must be true love.

    Unfortunatly the recent MO leaks show nothing new, well.. besides lots of balls and sausages, the graphics are still stunning and awesome (the sky, clouds, mountains and water/swimming!!) but no combat-cake yet. :(

  10. @Ryan

    What I meant was the evolution of old school MMO’s to the transition to more Casual MMO’s, such as WoW making the players taste change and not realize what they are actually missing from the old school flavor.

    I believe that on a previous cast comment I explained my issues with what I don’t like about DFO, so that would be redundant.


    Everyone likes McDonalds (current generation of MMO’s), its fast, cheap and tastes okay, but if given the choice between a burger from McDonalds or say a steakhouse (old school MMO’s), which is more expensive, tastes better, you wait longer for it and you feel more satisfied when you eat it.

  11. @Baelvar: haha! You might be right about me being a beaten housewife/Stockholmesque behavior, OR I am seeing the forest from the trees. I see what dfo is, and what it can be. There is also a difference between what it is, and how people play it. Some might argue that they are one in the same, but I disagree. I’ll have to drive into this point in my next cast. Until that time, IC what you are saying, and you could be right… I’ll have to do some soul searching πŸ˜€ And remember this… my perspective on dfo is coming from a casual gaming perspective, but from a long time gamer (board, p&p, athletic, and pixels) <– not that that makes me right, just might shed some insight into how I view these things.

    @nizzie: haha.

    @BurntSushi: IF dfo is steak, then why don’t you eat it? (this is the one good thing about forums, it would be a hell of a lot easier to track comments 😐 , but the spam on an open forum is unbearable. )

  12. @Ryan

    DFO is steak to me when I first tried it, but the cook gave it to me rare, not medium well like I like it.

    DFO on principle has great ideas and direction, but when I first played on the EU server, well it was less than palatable.

    I just bought the US version, so I am going to have a second serving until MO.

    Like all those food industry references? lol.

  13. @BurntSushi: The food comparisons work great… helps my noggin digest your words. I expect to hear more of your travails regarding the NA server, which hopefully they won’t be.

  14. ahhh need a new hardcore pvp game. Need a revamped Lineage2 w/ full drop, full red system and I’ll be good to go thx.

    What else is out there or coming out?

  15. @nizzie: true, but the game looks to be a diamond in the rough. I think once the games polished and running it will be a sight to behold.

    @Ryan: You can’t live in the what can be, or what may be attitude. That will leave you sorely disapointed. I’ve gone through that many times in past mmos. Eventually I snap out of that dream and realise, what a pile of crap the game was. ( typically when I’m pulled away from the game for various reasons ).

    You know that saying, absence makes the heart grow fonder? Well, it can also shock you out of that coma you been in for the past X months. Put some feeling back into that brain you been mashing into fine paste.

    I too was playing games for the very same reason. Hoping it would grow and become a better game, or for the very idea of what it would be like when I finally got X. Guess what it never happens, and typically all excitement and fun the game had, is beaten out of it with the nerf bat.

    Going with the food theme you guys are stuck on. Darkfall’s that juicy burger you see on TV. You think to yourself that looks good, so you drive down and pick one up. You open your bag and look inside, only to find something someone sat on for the good part of the day.

    steverenolds@ I think you might be right lol.

  16. “nizzie: true, but the game looks to be a diamond in the rough. I think once the games polished and running it will be a sight to behold.

    Ryan: You can’t live in the what can be, or what may be attitude.”

    Man I think I just contradicted myself, old habbits die hard. Lol

  17. You guys are working me. Next cast is no holds barred.

    @chrome: you, sir, are a bullshit artist πŸ˜€ L2 hardcored out like that… haha! I dont know if it could get harder core than that.

  18. l2 was nothing like that Ryan, they may have changed it to full red now, but thats not how it was.

    Back in the day when we played, it was a bunch of carebears (Regulators for example) waiting for someone to go red, then they all of a sudden got a pair of nutZ.

  19. @chrome: I mis-articulated myself. What I was saying is that IF the devs made L2 THAT hardcore, then it would be the hardest fucking game out. CAuse you’d lose all your shit, which would be debilitating, and you’d lose levels. haha. I agree with you.

  20. @Steve: I just checked out a youtube video for HoN… provided D3 were out, why would I play a game like HoN over D3? With battlenet in place it seems like a similar concept. Am I missing something here?

  21. @Baelvar: it’s on! πŸ˜€

    Guys, do you guys glance at the twitter updates when you load the page, prior to entering into the comments section?

  22. @ryan Diablo and DoTA are very different, DoTA is short matches, and isn’t really about items. I’m also playing diablo2 rightnow, started a assasain and got her to 23 last night.

    Also, Diablo3 is going to be world of warcraft 2 1/2.

  23. Diablo III looks amazing, can’t wait for that.

    Anyways I got a question a little off topic, you guys have a look at Champions Online at all? Wondering your thoughts on that game if so.

  24. @Baelvar: I just took a peak at it. For starters I’m not really one for that theme of game; however, a good game is a good game. I’ll have to make myself look at it more closely.

  25. @Ryan, True it definately is different from what’s typically talked about around here. The combat system and customization is what caught my eye, shows some promise.

    @Steverenolds, lol, what do ya got against heroes / villains?

  26. @Balizar: Vince is the guy who does the Youtube vids. He’s been exceptionally busy lately (part of the reason you havent heard him in any recent casts), so that’s why those are lagging :|.

    @nizzie: Did she really say let them eat cake? Will post new cast next week (ie within the next 7 days). I’ve had company this past week, which has crimped our collective style πŸ˜€ Company, being my mom, is leaving today.

  27. @stevenrenolds, I guess it’s just a matter of preference. I don’t mind it really.

    The fact that I can completely design every aspect of my character intrigues me. You can hand pick all your powers, no pre-defined classes, or skills. If you want fire breath, ice shield, and the ability to throw cars, you can.

    @Ryan, Still no cast? Your slackin man. Just make the next one extra long and all will be forgiven.

  28. @Baelvar: just been a busy week πŸ˜€ I’m in to the extra long cast concept… or maybe a double. If you don’t get a dose of love by tomorrow night, then I’ll try to pump out a two-fer for next week. I definitely have the material.

  29. @Baelvar: Just realized that I won’t be going home until LATE Sat night… might not double cast this week πŸ˜€ Need to PLAY… stilll loving dfo. going to share some soul with you guys.

  30. Hey, just postin a random. Been listening to your guy(‘s) cast for awhile now but haven’t posted any thoughts on anything yet.

    Love the stuff and I love listening to this while I’m doing the boring gathering/farming haha so thanks.

    Looking forward to next cast.

    Keep the DF love up man.

  31. @§pry: Thanks! Been lazy on the casting front lately. Had another busy weekend (sorry baelvar πŸ˜€ ), but hope to have something out no later than this Tuesday night. JUST got word that I might have a guest… if he’s in regular form, then he’ll have a lot to say.

  32. Don’t know how many of you look at the Twitter updates… you should πŸ˜€ That’s where I let you guys know what’s going on, on the fly. Just completed a long cast. If the sound quality is good enough, you will love it.

  33. @Baelvar: He did! The only drawback to this cast is that when I speak there is a faint echo 😐 and SOME times he can be difficult to hear… but there is plenty of goodness regardless.

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